美國(guó)航天局局長(zhǎng)尼爾森被問(wèn)及月球背面有什么東西，以及中國(guó)為何要進(jìn)行探索，他回答說(shuō)：‘我沒(méi)有任何頭緒’。
Why is China Going to Dark side of the Moon?
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為什么中國(guó)要探索月球的背面？有關(guān)這一問(wèn)題，一段視頻正在推特平臺(tái)上熱傳。在視頻中，美國(guó)國(guó)家航空航天局局長(zhǎng)比爾·尼爾森被問(wèn)及月球背面有什么東西，以及中國(guó)為何要進(jìn)行探索，他回答說(shuō)：‘我沒(méi)有任何頭緒’。
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Why is China Going to Dark side of the Moon?
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Why is China Going to Dark side of the Moon?
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This video has been circulating on X. NASA Administrator Bill Nelson is asked what is on the dark side of the moon and why China is exploring it . His answer, “I have no idea”.
為什么中國(guó)要探索月球的背面？有關(guān)這一問(wèn)題，一段視頻正在推特平臺(tái)上熱傳。在視頻中，美國(guó)國(guó)家航空航天局局長(zhǎng)比爾·尼爾森被問(wèn)及月球背面有什么東西，以及中國(guó)為何要進(jìn)行探索，他回答說(shuō)：‘我沒(méi)有任何頭緒’。
The dark side of the Moon is not in "permanant darkness" as he said, it is simply not visible to us on Earth.
月球的背面并不像他說(shuō)的那樣處于“永恒的黑暗”中，只是在地球上的我們看不見(jiàn)而已。
I know key lost my marbles hearing him say that.
我得承認(rèn)，聽(tīng)到他說(shuō)那番話，我真是驚掉了下巴。
he also said, "we don't know what's on the backside of the moon" which we do because we have had obxts orbit the moon. He also said, "I have no idea" why we would expect the south pole to have water which is also ridiculous because we know that water/ice is regularly found not only on Earth but also every other obxt in our solar system at the poles because that's where the sun exposure is the least. Can't believe this guy is administrator of NASA but also a former astronaut himself.
他還說(shuō)：‘我們對(duì)月球背面一無(wú)所知’，這顯然不正確，因?yàn)槲覀円呀?jīng)通過(guò)航天器對(duì)月球進(jìn)行了環(huán)繞觀測(cè)。他還表示，‘我完全不知道’我們?yōu)楹螘?huì)預(yù)期月球南極有水，這同樣荒唐，因?yàn)槲覀冎浪虮粌H在地球上存在，在太陽(yáng)系中幾乎所有其他天體的極地區(qū)域也能找到，這是因?yàn)檫@些地方接收到的太陽(yáng)照射最少。難以置信，這樣一個(gè)人既是美國(guó)宇航局（NASA）的局長(zhǎng)，又曾是一名宇航員。
He answered “We have no idea,” to the question of why the Chinese have decided to go to the far side of the moon, not to the question of why NASA wants to visit the pole.
他回答說(shuō)‘我們沒(méi)有頭緒’，這是針對(duì)‘為什么中國(guó)選擇去月球的背面’這一問(wèn)題，而不是對(duì)‘為什么NASA想要探訪月球南極’的提問(wèn)。
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Yep most of it is frozen on the colder area with less amount of sun exposure
對(duì)，大部分的水在太陽(yáng)照射較少的寒冷地區(qū)都是凍結(jié)狀態(tài)。
It’s kinda of an expression. I’d take it easy. Take it up with Pink Floyd lol :) peace ??
這其實(shí)是一種說(shuō)法，別太緊張。你可以輕松地去和Pink Floyd樂(lè)隊(duì)探討一下，哈哈～和平？
i can’t believe the director of NASA actually said that. i have zero faith in any of these “experts”
真不敢相信美國(guó)宇航局局長(zhǎng)居然這么說(shuō)。
我完全不相信這些“專家”
They should call it the “far side” of the moon. From our perspective is always the far side, versus the near side.
他們應(yīng)該稱之為‘月球遠(yuǎn)面’。從地球上看，那總是我們看不見(jiàn)的‘遠(yuǎn)面’，而不是‘近面’。
Exactly. We just had an eclipse. Guess how dark the "dark side" of the moon really was ...
完全正確，我們剛剛經(jīng)歷了一次日食。猜猜月球的“背面”到底有多暗…
It’s always dark from our point of view . We are in a tidal gravitational lock with the moon
從我們的觀察點(diǎn)來(lái)看，月球的那一面總是處于黑暗狀態(tài)。這是因?yàn)槲覀兣c月球之間存在潮汐引力鎖定。
It could be their activities cannot be observed
可能是他們的活動(dòng)無(wú)法被觀察到
Dark to us
對(duì)我們來(lái)說(shuō)是黑暗
Permanant
永恒的
I was thinking the same what a grave mistake
我也有同感，這真是個(gè)嚴(yán)重的失策。
It is in a sense... the Dark Side of the Moon.
It is the hubris of man that assumes what is unseen, is without light where darkness prevails.
在某種意義上，那是月亮的‘暗面’。
人類(lèi)的傲慢在于，我們總是想當(dāng)然地認(rèn)為看不見(jiàn)的地方就是一片無(wú)光的黑暗。
Head of NASA says the back side of the moon is always dark? Unbelievable.
美國(guó)宇航局局長(zhǎng)說(shuō)月球背面永遠(yuǎn)是黑暗的?難以置信。
It's called the "Dark" side of the Moon not because It's always dark, It gets light. It's "dark" in terms of communication since it is always facing away from Earth.
Wtf are these guys talking about?
月球的‘暗面’之所以這樣稱呼，并不是因?yàn)槟抢镉肋h(yuǎn)黑暗，實(shí)際上它是有光照的。這里的‘暗’是指通信上的不便，因?yàn)樵虑蜻@一面永遠(yuǎn)背向地球。真不知道這些人在談?wù)撔┦裁础?/b>
There's... so much wrong about so many statements here.
NASA's Lunar Orbiter program mapped all of the moon through 1966-1967, using some of the first digital imaging. The Apollo Command Module made multiple orbits.
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter launched in 2009 and is still operational, sending back lunar imagery.
The James Webb Space Telescope sits in the L-2 La Grange point, beyond the moon.
If this guy is head of NASA, he needs to be fired.
這里的說(shuō)法有很多錯(cuò)誤之處。NASA的月球軌道器計(jì)劃在1966至1967年首次使用數(shù)字成像技術(shù)對(duì)月球全貌進(jìn)行了測(cè)繪。阿波羅指令艙執(zhí)行了多次繞月軌道飛行。2009年發(fā)射的月球勘測(cè)軌道器目前仍在工作，持續(xù)發(fā)送回月球表面圖像。詹姆斯·韋伯太空望遠(yuǎn)鏡位于月球背面的L2拉格朗日點(diǎn)。如果這個(gè)人真的是NASA的負(fù)責(zé)人，他真該被撤職。
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He has been caught out in more lies than he has hair. By the way we're missing the party of the year!!!
他被揭穿的謊言比他的頭發(fā)還要多。順便說(shuō)一下，我們要錯(cuò)過(guò)今年最盛大的派對(duì)了！
You will notice more countries such as China, India, and Japan have made significant efforts to take a much closer look at the Moon, and use their own imaging/mapping technology.
An interesting theory is that they do not trust what information NASA shared and want to see for themselves what might truly be up there, in addition to national prestige, of course.
Whatever it might be, the US and Russia have known for quite a while.
This guy appears to be a stooge puppet and always gives me the creeps.
The Moon has quite a few anomalies, as well.
你可能會(huì)注意到，包括中國(guó)、印度和日本在內(nèi)的更多國(guó)家已經(jīng)做出了重大努力，利用他們自己的成像和測(cè)繪技術(shù)，更加細(xì)致地研究月球。
有一種有趣的觀點(diǎn)認(rèn)為，這些國(guó)家可能不信任NASA公布的信息，他們想要親自確認(rèn)月球上真正存在的情況，當(dāng)然，這也關(guān)乎國(guó)家的聲望。
不管是出于什么原因，美國(guó)和俄羅斯已經(jīng)對(duì)此了解了一段時(shí)間。
這個(gè)人看起來(lái)像是個(gè)被人操縱的傀儡，總是讓人感到不安。
月球上確實(shí)存在一些異常現(xiàn)象。
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Sounds like NASA is trying to Rick roll china
聽(tīng)起來(lái)美國(guó)國(guó)家航空航天局(NASA)想要碾壓中國(guó)
That's not a theory, absolutely any layperson can see how much Nasa scrubs info to hide it from the public. They've been caught more times than I could ever begin to count, and the most common way is by them being retarded just like Gramps here, by releasing photos initially, then scrubbing them and releasing doctored photos in place of them.
這并非什么理論，任何一個(gè)普通人都能看出來(lái)NASA為了向公眾隱瞞信息而清洗了多少資料。他們被抓包的次數(shù)已經(jīng)多到數(shù)不勝數(shù)，而最常見(jiàn)的手段就是像這里的‘老祖宗’一樣愚蠢——一開(kāi)始放出照片，然后把它們清除，再替換成修改過(guò)的版本。
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I'm presenting in a fashion so those that not familiar with this history can digest it more easily.
However, yes I'm aware, just looking at the Mars photos between NASA and India is quite an eye-opener.
我這樣講是為了讓那些不熟悉這段歷史的人更容易理解。
然而，是的，我知道，僅僅看美國(guó)宇航局和印度之間的火星照片就讓人大開(kāi)眼界。
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Who is this old man? he should not be speaking about anything related to space if this is the extent of his knowledge about the moon. He should have been gone the same day this exchange took place
這位老人是誰(shuí)？如果他對(duì)月球的了解就這么一點(diǎn)，那他本不應(yīng)該對(duì)任何與太空有關(guān)的事情發(fā)表意見(jiàn)。那次對(duì)話一經(jīng)發(fā)生，他就應(yīng)該立刻被撤職。
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Ideally a country that currently uses coal and doesn't have the infrastructure to handle nuclear radioactive material so they can be given Aneutronic material that's relatively easy and safe to handle and we can bridge the gab between developing nations and developed in terms of carbon emissions.
The issue is a large portion of the world doesn't have clean energy and is a long way economically from justifying the transition.
Too bad war is a priority.
理想的情況是，對(duì)于那些目前依賴煤炭并且缺乏處理核放射性材料的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施的國(guó)家，我們可以提供一種相對(duì)容易且安全操作的無(wú)中子融合材料，幫助它們過(guò)渡。這樣我們就能夠在發(fā)展中和發(fā)達(dá)國(guó)家之間搭建起一座橋梁，減少碳排放的差距。問(wèn)題在于，世界上很大一部分地區(qū)還沒(méi)有清潔能源，而且從經(jīng)濟(jì)角度來(lái)看，它們距離實(shí)現(xiàn)能源轉(zhuǎn)型還有很長(zhǎng)的路要走。更遺憾的是，戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)似乎總是被放在了優(yōu)先位置。
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So if China goes its good for us all, so they'll diminish emission.. nice
所以，如果中國(guó)能夠帶頭采取行動(dòng)，那對(duì)我們所有人都是好事，它們將減少排放……這真是太棒了
I think it would be incredible for China to become the world's superpower not because greed or forced work or whatever, but for fixing earths energy problem.
我認(rèn)為，如果中國(guó)因?yàn)榻鉀Q了地球的能源問(wèn)題而成為世界超級(jí)大國(guó)，那將是一件非常了不起的事情，這與貪婪或強(qiáng)制勞動(dòng)等無(wú)關(guān)。
But how do we stop space nazis
我們?cè)撊绾巫柚固罩械募{粹勢(shì)力？
You gotta go back and firstly, not hand the keys to the entire space program to nazis.
首先，我們絕不能一開(kāi)始就把整個(gè)太空計(jì)劃的控制權(quán)交給納粹。
AI should be able to solve our fusion problem....surely?
人工智能應(yīng)該能夠幫助我們解決核聚變的問(wèn)題……是吧？
Nah. The problem with fusion is mostly practical aspects: material science, manufacturing, control engineering, ...
AI is fancy automated statistics. It can solve all sorts of problems because many problems can be modelled as statistical optimization problems, but anything that cannot be described in such terms is just not AI-solvable.
不對(duì)，核聚變面臨的難題主要是實(shí)際操作層面的：包括材料科學(xué)、制造業(yè)、控制工程等方面……
人工智能不過(guò)是一套高級(jí)的自動(dòng)化統(tǒng)計(jì)工具。它能夠解決各種問(wèn)題，因?yàn)樵S多問(wèn)題都可以被構(gòu)建成統(tǒng)計(jì)優(yōu)化問(wèn)題。但那些不能以這種方式描述的問(wèn)題，就不是人工智能所能解決的。
AI is fancy automated statistics
Right now (and we have no idea how far it's advanced behind closed doors).
And if you chop up those problems into smaller problems, AI can help. Dismissing it all out of hand is foolish.
“人工智能不過(guò)是一套高級(jí)的自動(dòng)化統(tǒng)計(jì)工具。
目前我們對(duì)它的了解還很有限，不知道它在幕后已經(jīng)發(fā)展到了何種程度。
如果你能將大問(wèn)題分解成小問(wèn)題，人工智能就能發(fā)揮作用。輕易地全盤(pán)否定它的作用是愚蠢的。
Right now (and we have no idea how far it's advanced behind closed doors).
Unless you have evidence that might give a reason to believe there's an entire avenue of machine learning that is being used and kept secret, discussing this is just pointless speculation.
All currently successful approaches to AI are fancy automated statistics.
And if you chop up those problems into smaller problems, AI can help. Dismissing it all out of hand is foolish.
Scientists already do that. Like 90% of physics graduates today have some amount of background in machine learning. But it is just one of many tools, not a magic problem solving machine.
目前（我們并不了解它在私下里已經(jīng)發(fā)展到了哪一步）。
除非你掌握了某些證據(jù)，能夠合理推測(cè)存在一種被使用且保密的機(jī)器學(xué)習(xí)技術(shù)，否則對(duì)這個(gè)話題的討論僅僅是無(wú)端的猜測(cè)。
所有當(dāng)前取得成功的人工智能技術(shù)，本質(zhì)上都是高級(jí)的自動(dòng)化統(tǒng)計(jì)方法。
而且，如果你能將復(fù)雜問(wèn)題分解為更小的子問(wèn)題，人工智能就能發(fā)揮作用。一概拒絕這種技術(shù)是愚蠢的。
科學(xué)家們已經(jīng)在這樣做了。比如，現(xiàn)今大約90%的物理學(xué)畢業(yè)生都具備一定程度的機(jī)器學(xué)習(xí)知識(shí)。但這只是眾多科研工具中的一種，并非萬(wàn)能的問(wèn)題解決器。
That's fine....be surprised in a few years. It's crazy how fast the technology is advancing.
沒(méi)關(guān)系……幾年后你會(huì)大吃一驚的?？萍嫉陌l(fā)展速度快得令人難以置信。
False. The moon has an abundance but is available on earth in Canada
不對(duì)，月球上確實(shí)資源豐富，但在地球上，比如加拿大，也有這樣的資源。
Do you know what the number 3 stands for?
I'm willing to teach if you're willing to learn.
你知道數(shù)字3代表什么嗎？
如果你愿意學(xué)習(xí)，我愿意教你。
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It’s in volcanic rock Baffin Island, bring on the downvotes you mongrels
它就在巴芬島的火山巖里，盡管讓反對(duì)的聲音來(lái)得更猛烈些吧，你們這些家伙。
Ah were going the super pedantic route,
Yes I guess if you want to search for peridot crystals trapped in century old volcanic rock in the arctic you might get enough Helium3 to do something interesting in...
But in the real world, it's literally easier and safer to send robots to the moon, and pick it up by the fistful and bring it back and do something productive with it.
I sometimes forget how pedantic people in some desperate attempt at validation on the internet instead of iunno, learning.
啊，我們這是在鉆牛角尖啊。
是的，我猜如果你想要搜尋那些被困在北極百年火山巖中的橄欖石晶體，你或許能得到足夠的氦-3來(lái)做點(diǎn)有趣的研究……
但在現(xiàn)實(shí)世界中，派遣機(jī)器人前往月球，直接一把把地收集，然后安全地帶回來(lái)，用它來(lái)做有益的事情，無(wú)疑要簡(jiǎn)單和安全得多。
有時(shí)候我忘了，有些人在互聯(lián)網(wǎng)上為了一點(diǎn)點(diǎn)認(rèn)同感而鉆牛角尖，而不是去真正學(xué)習(xí)。
no, it's actually the dark side of the moon because it never faces the earth, it's own rotation and the rotation of it around the earth, are in a gravitational lock. So only one side of the moon faces the earth. Line of sight communication is a problem solved with simple communications satellites that you can put in lunar orbit. Easy for the Chinese to accomplish. I digress though, I think the skeleton trying to answer questions is lying and there is something to hide on the dark side of the lunar surface. What that is could be anyones guess though.
不，實(shí)際上月球的‘暗面’之所以叫這個(gè)名字，是因?yàn)樗肋h(yuǎn)不面對(duì)地球——月球的自轉(zhuǎn)和它繞地球的公轉(zhuǎn)被引力鎖定了。所以月球總是只有一面朝向地球。至于視影通信的問(wèn)題，通過(guò)在月球軌道上部署通信衛(wèi)星就可以輕易解決，這對(duì)中國(guó)人來(lái)說(shuō)很容易實(shí)現(xiàn)。不過(guò)，我有點(diǎn)跑題了，我認(rèn)為那個(gè)試圖回答問(wèn)題的家伙在撒謊，月球的暗面上肯定隱藏著一些秘密。至于是什么，那就不得而知了。
Probably that box device that looks like the Kaaba in Mecca, that intercepts souls in the reincarnation process or something like that
很可能是那個(gè)外觀類(lèi)似麥加天房的盒子裝置，據(jù)說(shuō)它在輪回過(guò)程中攔截靈魂，或者有類(lèi)似的功能
That cube is the shape of a 3D hexagon found on one of Saturn’s poles. The other of course is an eye. We are all in some kind of 70’s cartoon.
那個(gè)立方體的形狀，其實(shí)是一個(gè)在土星某個(gè)極地發(fā)現(xiàn)的三維六邊形。當(dāng)然，另一個(gè)形狀像一只眼睛。我們仿佛都生活在70年代的卡通世界里。
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Doesn't this guy run NASA? Or at least is high up in the organisation? And he doesn't know it isn't dark...madness
這個(gè)人不是掌管NASA的嗎？或者至少在機(jī)構(gòu)里地位頗高？他竟然不知道月球背面并不是真的一片漆黑……真是荒唐。
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I’m pretty sure he means “dark” as in not visible. As in “a radio transmission going dark”.
我確信他所說(shuō)的‘暗’是指看不見(jiàn)的意思，就像‘無(wú)線電傳輸中斷’一樣。
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He’s essentially said what you said. Playing devil’s advocate, he didn’t say there was an absence of light, to be fair. He could have implied that it’s “in dark” in a communicative sense…
他基本上說(shuō)的是你那個(gè)意思。如果他扮演魔鬼的代言人，他并沒(méi)有說(shuō)那里缺少光亮，公平地講。他可能是指在通訊意義上的‘黑暗’……
I have a lot of stupid arguments on Reddit but one that stands out is someone trying to argue with me that it’s not called the dark side of the moon. Since it’s not really dark that’s not what people call it. That it’s called that because of Pink Floyd’s album. And I’d try to explain that it means “dark” in terms of human observation and he just wasn’t having it. He was saying I was wrong, and that it’s a misnomer because people think it’s literally dark, and thus, no one actually calls it that.
The whole conversation was so annoying and I’m the one downvoted.
我在Reddit上經(jīng)歷了很多愚蠢的爭(zhēng)論，其中一個(gè)特別難忘的是，有人試圖說(shuō)服我，月球的背面并不是人們所說(shuō)的‘暗面’。他認(rèn)為這個(gè)名字來(lái)源于Pink Floyd的專輯，并不是因?yàn)槟抢镎娴牟话l(fā)光。我試圖解釋說(shuō)‘暗’是指從人類(lèi)觀察的角度來(lái)說(shuō)的，但他就是不買(mǎi)賬。他堅(jiān)稱我錯(cuò)了，認(rèn)為這是個(gè)用詞不當(dāng)，因?yàn)槿藗円詾槟抢镎娴囊黄岷?，所以?shí)際上沒(méi)人會(huì)這么叫它。那次對(duì)話太煩人了，而且我還被踩了。
Just read an article about it, apparently they believe there's an abundance of Helium-3 due to that part of the moon being exposed to solar winds at a higher degree.
Helium-3 can be used to power fusion reactors and just a couple of trips a year would be able to supply most of earth with "clean" power if it was used effectively. So yes, it seems like a fairly big deal if we were to make use of it.
This seems like something that government officials should be aware of/care about.
“我剛讀了一篇文章，據(jù)說(shuō)他們相信月球的這一部分由于更多地暴露于太陽(yáng)風(fēng)中，因此氦-3的儲(chǔ)量非常豐富。氦-3可以用于驅(qū)動(dòng)核聚變反應(yīng)堆，如果能夠有效利用，每年只需幾次任務(wù)就能為地球上的大多數(shù)地區(qū)提供‘清潔’能源。所以，如果我們能夠利用這種資源，這似乎是件非常重要的事情。這看起來(lái)像是政府官員應(yīng)該意識(shí)到并關(guān)心的問(wèn)題。
They don't wanna talk about it because of big oil etc
他們不想談?wù)撨@個(gè)問(wèn)題，因?yàn)槭偷?/b>
Ironically this is one of the more sane things China is doing. Which, I guess is rather strange on its own.
具有諷刺意味的是，這是中國(guó)正在做的更理智的事情之一。我想這本身就很奇怪。
China is one of the most sane countries on earth
中國(guó)是世界上最理智的國(guó)家之一
Tesla was killed for talking about infinite & clean energy. The rich just want to get richer, so they don't want fossil fuel usage to go away.
尼古拉·特斯拉（Nikola Tesla）因討論無(wú)限且清潔的能源而被謀害。富人只是想變得更富有，因此他們不希望化石燃料的使用終結(jié)。
Tesla wasn't killed. And infinite energy is impossible.
特斯拉并沒(méi)有被殺。而且，無(wú)限的能源根本不可能存在。
It’s not even the “always in the dark” comment that raises my eyebrow. It’s the “well we don’t know what’s on the backside of the moon……., so uhh they will discover that”.
Ummmmmmm. Yes, there’s dumb. But then there’s even dumber. Great pick for the job eh!! Really goes to show you that folks in these high paying big title positions in the gov did not get that big title for any reason the tax payers whom pay his (edit: or hers) salary would like to hear.
真正讓我感到不解的不是‘永遠(yuǎn)處于黑暗中’的說(shuō)法。而是‘我們對(duì)月球背面一無(wú)所知……所以，嗯，他們會(huì)去發(fā)現(xiàn)的’。
嗯，這確實(shí)夠蠢的。但還有更蠢的。真是個(gè)‘明智’的人選?。?！這恰恰證明了，那些在政府中拿著高薪、擁有顯赫頭銜的人，并不是因?yàn)榧{稅人愿意聽(tīng)到的理由而獲得那些頭銜的。
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