網(wǎng)友評論：北方工業(yè)第3代 97式步槍首評，全新加拿大非限制級步槍！
New Canadian Non-Restricted Rifle! Norinco Gen 3 Type 97 First Look
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今天，我們將快速了解加拿大新上市的第3代北方工業(yè)的 97式步槍。我們將介紹一些新特性，開幾槍，看看總體感覺如何。感謝加拿大輕武器專營店，讓我們能夠出這一期視頻！請務必在firearmsoutletcanada.com 瀏覽滿足您所需求的所有槍支和裝備。
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I've always wished we could still get norinco stuff here in the states, I'd love to try one of those with real magazines.
我總是希望我們在美國還能買到北方工業(yè)公司的東西，我很樂意試試一把裝著真正的彈匣的玩意。
It's too cheap and reliable and that was why its banned?
它太便宜可靠了，這就是為什么它被禁的原因？
Oh yeah the low cost is definitely a factor, Norinco would take a huge piece of the pie from the domestic production. NRA lobbied the govn’t to ban import to protect the American companies bottom line.
哦是的，低成本絕對是一個因素，北方工業(yè)集團將從國內(nèi)生產(chǎn)中分得一大塊蛋糕。美國步槍協(xié)會游說政府禁止進口來保護美國公司的贏利。
When T97 was in development, it was designed for acceptable accuracy, low production cost, short body, and low weight. Users can be trained and use it in a short period of time. It was designed to accept one standard issued mag, and in certain use environment that is different from competition requirement. It may never be as good as AR-15 which is now further developed to accept a wide range of after-market parts and accessories.
97式開發(fā)時，主要考慮保證設計精度可接受的情況下，生產(chǎn)成本低，機身短，重量輕。使用者可以在短時間內(nèi)接受培訓并使用它。其設計采用常規(guī)彈匣，并在不同于比賽條件下的特定使用環(huán)境中使用。它可能永遠不會像AR-15那么好，可以適配廣泛的售后市場零件和配件。
I like the mag set up, that safety location really does look awkward though. Good review, thanks
我喜歡彈匣的設置，但那個保險位置看起來確實很尷尬。謝謝回復
QZB 95 97 The shape is very similar to the sci-fi pulse rifle in Starship Troopers
95式和97式步槍的外形與星河戰(zhàn)隊中的科幻脈沖步槍非常相似
Not bad at all. Basically a type 81 scaled down to 5.56 in a bullpup. It also has the gas regulator shut-off - same as "81". Which can turn that into a manual repeater. And the bolt design comes right from AK.
Only major difference from type 81 that I notice -there's no hammer, it's striker fired. Don't know what made them to make it that way (an extra piece that can be lost!), but as a service rifle it definitely suits the purpose.
一點也不差哈?；旧鲜?1式縮小到5.56的無槍托設計版。它還具有和81式一樣的氣流調(diào)節(jié)器關(guān)閉功能，可以調(diào)成手動連發(fā)。螺栓設計都來自AK系列。
我注意到的唯一與81式的主要區(qū)別是沒有擊錘，是撞針擊發(fā)的。不知道為啥他們要這樣做（可能會丟失的額外零件！），但作為一款在役步槍，絕對夠用了。
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Thanks for the great review!
I just picked one up today and was having an issue with it only shooting single shots, no semi auto. Is that what you were talking about when you said you got used to pulling the mag down when loading it?
感謝您的精彩測評！
我今天剛買了一個，有點問題，只有單發(fā)，沒有半自動。你是不是在你說你已經(jīng)習慣了把彈匣取下來再裝回去的時候提到過這點。
As a former Californian ,i feel for my frost back brethren
作為一名前加州人，我很同情的凍背兄弟（加拿大跑到美國工作的人，他們到美國就玩不到這款槍了）
Thank you Congrats getting out of commiefornia!
非常感謝。 恭喜你從加共福尼亞出來！
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If you compare this with the British rifle the ergonomics on this gun is considered good
如果你將其與英國步槍相比，這款槍的人體工程學算好了
Pretty cool rifle, hopefully Trudie doesn't come after this one too...
很酷的來復槍，希望該死的特魯多接下來別把這把槍給禁了…
Better practice using (or at least know how)Chinese rifles cuz we’re gonna end up using them if they do invade.
最好多練練（或至少知道如何使用）中國步槍，萬一哪天他們真的入侵了，我們最終會用到。
The trigger is great imho. Its light at only around 4lb and there its an even travel all the way through with no clear break, meaning that the chances of you jerking the trigger is nonexistent. Its not "terrible", its a different design philosophy that whats common in nato firearms. Youre also reloading it incorrectly with the gen 1. Youre meant to reload with your right arm, not the left. Thats why the button was on the right side.
恕我直言扳機很棒。它的扳機力只有4磅左右，一路下來沒有明顯的卡斷，這意味著你不會遇到要用力扣動扳機的情況。這并不“可怕”，這是一種與北約武器中常見的設計不同的設計理念。你還錯誤地像用第1代一樣換彈匣。你應該用右手而不是左手換彈，這也是為什么按鈕設在右邊。
You can shoot the rifle left handed if you lean back more and keep your face further back from the ejection port as the ejection is 45 degrees forward
如果您向后傾斜更多并保持臉部遠離拋殼窗，您可以左手射擊步槍，因為拋殼窗向前 45 度
I’m surprised you don’t like the “reach around” mag release!
我很驚訝你居然不喜歡這種“觸手可及”的換彈匣方式！
The T95 — military version of 97 has already moved the awful safety to a better position few years ago, actually even before T97 generation2 came out, why the hell do they refuse to change that on T97?
實際上在97式第2代問世前，95式即97式的軍用版已經(jīng)將糟糕的保險調(diào)到了一個更好的位置，他們?yōu)槭裁淳芙^在T97上改變這一點呢？
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Norinco did move the safety to near the trigger on the QBZ 95-1 years ago... I guess they just not bother to change the tooling, since Type 97 is for export exclusively.
1年前，中國北方工業(yè)集團公司確實將保險移到了QBZ-95的扳機附近…我想他們只是懶得改加工了，因為97型是專門用于出口的。
This one has the same issue as gen 2. The two upper screws will be loose after shooting about 50-100 rounds, that’s why it doesn’t holds zero.
這與2代有個相同的問題，在射出大約50-100發(fā)子彈后，上面的兩顆螺絲會松動，這就是為啥它不能保持歸零。
It actually has over-insertion tabs. They're just useless because they sit too high, and they're a bit narrow for PMAG's narrowing front anyway.
Overall I agree, that T97 is fairly reliable (although picky with mags) but is barely passable in terms of ergonomics. They could've put just 10% extra cost/effort into it and make it an actually good rifle, but for some reason don't want to.
它實際上有個過度插入標，但是安得太高了所以沒啥用，而且對于聚合物彈匣變窄的前端來說，它們有點窄。
總的來說，我同意97式是相當可靠的（雖然對彈匣很挑剔），但從人體工程學角度來看，勉強能接受吧。他們本可以投入10%的額外成本/精力，使其成為一支真正優(yōu)秀的步槍，但出于某種原因，他們不想這樣做。
1 year ago
I have the gen 3, excellent firearm, very happy. Question, how often are you talking off the top rail and cleaning the gas piston? I have a scope mounted on top and it's a pain to unscrew the top rail with every clean. Plus I'm worried about the screws stripping over time from removing them so much with every clean. Do you take the rail off with every field strip clean, or just do everything else and only do this part once and a while?
我很高興買了3代，優(yōu)秀的輕武器。問：你多久拆一次頂軌和清潔氣體活塞？我在頂部安裝了一個準鏡，每次清潔都要擰松頂部導軌，很難受啊。此外，我還擔心每次清洗都會導致螺絲脫落。你是每次清理都取下導軌，還是平時清理其他地方，偶爾清理一下這一部分？
I bet if Norinco wasn't banned in America, we'd be able to get these fairly cheap because Norinco used to be cheap as hell to get. An inexpensive bullpup for plixing sounds fun because other than Kel-tec you can't find a cool bullpup to play around with
我敢打賭，如果中國北方工業(yè)公司在美國沒有被禁，我們就能以相當便宜的價格買到這些產(chǎn)品，因為中國北方工業(yè)公司過去的價格非常便宜，一把價格不貴的無托槍聽上去很有趣，因為除了柯爾特外，你找不到一把很酷的無托槍來玩
I think this will be the last gen of T97, because PLA already using a new rifle QBZ191
我認為這是97式的最后一代了，因為解放軍已經(jīng)在用新型步槍 QBZ-191了
I think Chinese army’s latest rifles are super dope. But they only sell the old garbages to other countries.
我認為中國軍隊的最新步槍是超級棒，但他們只賣舊XX給其他國家。
Why are people hating on this? It’s an affordable option that’s been improved a lot since its first generation. It’s no AR but it’s cheap and non restricted (last time I looked)
為什么人們不喜歡這款槍？這是價格合理的選擇，自第1代以來已得到了很大的改進。這不是AR，而且它便宜還不受限制（上次我看的時候）
There is no fire-arm market in China, so stuff like the safety location sucks. Probably, they expect the enemy or gangsters to hate this gun when picking it up on the battlefield, haha. (just kidding)
中國國內(nèi)沒有輕武器市場，所以像保險位置這樣的東西很設計得很爛。也許，他們希望敵人或歹徒在戰(zhàn)場上撿起這把槍時會討厭它，哈哈。（開玩笑）
My buddy has a type 97 ive shot alot and as a lefite, honestly just remeber you're a lefties and keep your face back a bit lol. Ya its slightly inconvenient but I can say after roughly 3000 rounds shot out of it ive only hit myself once from forgetting lol
我的朋友有一把97式，我用它開過很多槍了，作為一個左撇子，老實說，只要記住你是個左撇子，把臉往后仰一點哈哈哈。是的，這有點不方便，但我可以說，打了大約3000發(fā)子彈后，我只彈了自己一次，因為忘了哈哈哈。
I want this, and they have it in cabelas for window shoping
我想要這款，在坎貝拉上可以逛逛看。
OK throw away the 97 is time for type-191 next.
好了該把97式丟了，接下來是191式的時代了
What scope is that? I want to get this gun but dont know what scope to get
你用的啥準鏡??？我想買這把槍但不知道配什么準鏡
Trudolf will not take this weapon from Canadians because it is Chinese production and Trudolf is their boy
特魯?shù)婪颍ㄐ『影嫣佤敹啵┎粫募幽么笕耸种心米哌@款武器的，因為這是中國生產(chǎn)的，特魯?shù)婪蚴撬麄兊膶氊悆鹤?/b>
5 rounds got to plate out of 20 in a distance of 75 yards!!!!!!! Either gun or shooter is really garbage! Most likely gun is!!!!
在75碼的距離內(nèi)，20發(fā)中有5發(fā)脫靶?。。。。。?！要么槍垃圾要么槍手垃圾！很可能是槍?。。?！
Even the .22LR semi-auto are being banned in Canada while they are allowed in UK, Australia and New Zealand.
甚至是英國、澳大利亞和新西蘭都允許用.22LR半自動步槍，在加拿大倒是被禁了。
Only little girl shooters need to wear gloves.
只有小女孩在打槍的時候才戴手套！
Didn't liked it. But, at least Truidiot didn't took it from law abiding Canadians!
雖然不喜歡，但是至少特魯呆沒從遵紀守法的加拿大人手上搶走這把槍
not banned yet?? wait for it......
還沒被禁嗎？等著吧…