經(jīng)驗豐富的旅行者們,你們認為旅行中最有用的語言是什么?
Seasoned travellers, what is the most useful language you’ve learnt and why?譯文簡介
為了應(yīng)付旅行上的困難,我應(yīng)該學(xué)的最有用的語言是什么?我會一點法語,足以用來問路之類的了,但我想知道我還應(yīng)該學(xué)些什么,特別是亞洲的?
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I am about to turn 18 and I’m planning to try and visit every continent (apart from Antarctica) before I’m 21, so I have Asia, Australasia, South America and Africa left... What’s the most useful language for me to learn to help me get by? I already know a little French, enough to ask for directions etc but I wanted to know what else I should learn particularly for Asia?
我快年滿18歲了,我打算在21歲之前去各個大洲(除了南極洲)旅游,所以我的目的地是亞洲、澳大利亞、南美和非洲,為了應(yīng)付旅行上的困難,我應(yīng)該學(xué)的最有用的語言是什么?我會一點法語,足以用來問路之類的了,但我想知道我還應(yīng)該學(xué)些什么,特別是亞洲的?
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I've found learning the following words and phrases are enough to get by just about anywhere:
Yes, No, Please, Thank You, How much?
Straight, Left, Right, Back
Numbers 1 to 10
Water, Bathroom
我發(fā)現(xiàn)學(xué)下面的詞匯可能就足以應(yīng)付了:
是、不是、請、謝謝、多少?
前、左、右、后
數(shù)字1到10
水、浴室
You forgot "excuse me", both versions. The one where you make an innocent mistake (sorry) or need to make your way past someone. Eg lo siento vs con permiso
People underestimate the power of con permiso when you're lost on a crowded bus and try to politely force your way to the exit before it leaves and vice versa.
你把“抱歉”忘了。它有兩種版本,一種是當你犯了無心之失時(對不起),或者你要借過時。
當你在擁擠的公共汽車上暈頭轉(zhuǎn)向,想要在車開走之前禮貌的迫使別人讓路時,可別低估了“抱歉”的力量。
Don't forget "disculpa" for getting someone's attention
別忘了說“打擾了”來引起他人的注意
You forgot, “Two large beers please, my friend will pay.”
你忘了“請來兩大杯啤酒,我的朋友會付錢的”。
Food. Where is food. Where can I get good food. What is a good food. What food is a must try. What is a good food with alcohol. What is a good midnight snack.
Come on man, why else would you even travel if not for food
食物。哪里有食物?我可以去哪里找到好吃的食物?什么食物好吃?哪種是必吃的食物?有哪些含酒精的美食?有什么好吃的夜宵?
得了吧兄弟,如果不是為了食物,干嘛要去旅行?
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English, Spanish and Mandarin cover most of the world.
Basic conversational skills are better than complete fluency if you can learn in multiple languages. But when it comes to learning languages, if you don’t continuously practice they tend to be quickly forgotten
英語、西班牙語和普通話覆蓋了大多數(shù)國家。
如果你能學(xué)會多種語言,擁有基本的會話技巧就可以了,不用非常流利。但是在學(xué)習(xí)語言的時候,如果你不經(jīng)常用的話很快就會忘了。
Add French and you've covered the vast majority for sure
加上法語,肯定就覆蓋了絕大多數(shù)國家。
Hindi too with the population of india (and pakistan)
還有印地語,印度和巴基斯坦的人口在用
I’m Indian and understand almost no Hindi. It’s technically the national language but not totally universal. And Pakistan is more Urdu, not Hindi.
我是印度人,幾乎不懂印地語。嚴格來說,印地語是國家法定語言,但它并不完全通用。而巴基斯坦人主要說烏爾都語,不是印地語。
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English is widely spoken and understood in India (and Pakistan) being former parts of the British Empire.
Widely spoken in Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia etc. Literally a quarter of Thais speak English as do over half Malays etc.
Spanish is the one I'd go with since very few people in Latin America understand English. Those two languages (English and Spanish) cover you for pretty much most situuations.
印度作為大英帝國的前殖民地,英語被廣泛的使用。馬來西亞、新加坡、印度尼西亞也有廣泛使用。四分之一的泰國人、一半以上的馬來人說英語。
我認為西班牙語是重點,因為在拉丁美洲沒多少人懂英語。英語和西班牙語在大多數(shù)情況下夠你用了。
I’ll back this up. Travelled Peru, Bolivia and Chile in 2017 and its true, even at major tourist spots not many people speak English.
頂樓上。我在2017年去了秘魯、玻利維亞和智利,和樓上說的一樣,即使在主要的旅游景點也沒有多少人會說英語。
Mandarin and Hindi, while spoken by a huge number of people, are not really going to help in "world travel" a great deal. They'll just help in a couple of countries.
English, Spanish, French and Arabic are the languages that cover vast swaths of the globe.
普通話和印地語,雖然說的人多,但對“世界旅行”并沒有多大幫助,只能在幾個國家用。
英語、西班牙語、法語和阿拉伯語是覆蓋最廣的語言。
Arabic? Most places you travel in Arab speaking countries will know English and some even French
阿拉伯語?阿拉伯的大部分地方都會英語,有些地方甚至?xí)ㄕZ。
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100%, is Hindi even that useful for a foreigner? I thought plenty knew english in India.
確實,印地語對外國人有什么用?我認為很多印度人都會英語。
Yeah but in places like Thailand and Singapore a lot of people speak mandarin.
是的,但在泰國和新加坡這樣的地方,很多人會說普通話。
Mandarin does help a person travelling around Asia, when you understand Mandarin, it is easy to pick up numbers and certain words in languages like Korean, Cantonese and Thai. The roots are there, just pronounced differently.
普通話對你在亞洲旅行確實有幫助,當你會了普通話,就很容易學(xué)會韓語、粵語和泰語等語言中的數(shù)字和某些詞語。根子上是一樣的,只是發(fā)音不同。
I agree. Most places will have either English speaking people, or immigrants speaking Spanish or Chinese (might be Cantonese instead of Mandarin, but younger people should have learned Mandarin). It won’t always work, but statistically this will help you most on global scale.
大多數(shù)地方要么有說英語的人,要么有說西班牙語或漢語的移民(可能是廣東話而不是普通話,但年輕人應(yīng)該會普通話)。這并不完全有效,但從統(tǒng)計學(xué)上來說,這三種語言在全球范圍內(nèi)是最有用的。
Yes. I know only “not useful” languages for traveling besides English but it’s been fine. Honestly the hardest place to get around is Japan.
To be fair by the way, if you're in the right mindset this is actually super fun! It's kind of delightful/novel to be like a 5 year old again where you can't read anything and have to figure out things. You basically never have trouble just knowing English in almost any other country, so fun to figure it out.
除了英語之外,我只會“無用”的語言,但會英語就可以了。老實說,我去過最困難的地方是日本。
不過,如果你心態(tài)放平,這會很有趣!是一種令人愉快的體驗,就像5歲的小孩一樣新奇,你什么都看不懂,必須要弄明白。基本上,你只要會英語,在大多數(shù)國家就沒問題了。
Can you explain more about Japan? I plan to go there one day, but I don’t know where to start with learning the language
日本方面的問題你能多解釋一下嗎?我打算去日本,但我不知道該從哪里開始學(xué)日語。
there is no point in learning japan if you just go there for holidays.
learn hello and thank you to be polite but that's all you need (even that is more than you need).
如果你只是去那里度假,學(xué)習(xí)日語是沒有意義的。
學(xué) “你好”和“謝謝”是為了禮貌,但也就這樣了(甚至都多了)
Just that most people who are not in tourism don't speak English for the most part, announcements are usually just in Japanese, and because of the writing being completely different you often can't parse much of it. But you are very clearly not from there, everyone is super polite in Japan, so it's not a deal breaker, just be prepared to do a lot of pointing and not being totally sure of what you're ordering, etc.
The first time I went to Japan was pre-smartphones so getting lost was far easier, but TBH these days with Google Maps it was nowhere near as tough on my second trip. So I don't think that's much of an issue any more.
在日本,大多數(shù)不從事旅游業(yè)的人基本都不會說英語,公告通常只用日語寫,由于文字完全不同,你基本無法理解其中的大部分內(nèi)容。不過在日本,每個人都超級有禮貌,所以也不是不能忍,只要做好準備很多事情只能用手來指,以及完全不確定你點的是什么菜等等。
我第一次去日本的時候還是智能手機出現(xiàn)之前,所以很容易迷路,現(xiàn)在有了谷歌地圖,我第二次去日本時就不容易迷路了,所以我覺得這已經(jīng)不是什么大問題了。
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English is definitely the single most useful language for traveling. You can really travel the whole world with just English. You will surely miss something, but it's entirely doable.
Spanish is extremely useful in Latin America.
French is useful in significant part of Africa and some other locations, mainly islands.
Russian is handy in all post-Soviet countries.
Rest of the languages covers just too limited area.
Specifically for Asia:
Central Asia, Russia and Caucasus - Russian.
Middle East - Arabic, except of Iran and Turkey. Majority of people in Gulf countries usually speak decent English
South Asia - English is quite common, as they were British colonies. Otherwise many local languages.
SE Asia - lots of difficult local languages, locals don't expect visitors to speak them. English is common in tourist areas. In Malaysia, Philippines and Singapore, English is very common everywhere.
East Asia - expect language barrier. Otherwise Mandarin, Korean, Japanese. Difficult.
英語絕對是旅行最有用的一門語言。你可以只靠英語就周游世界。你確實會錯過一些東西,但這是完全可行的。
西班牙語在拉丁美洲非常有用。
法語在非洲的大部分地區(qū)和一些島嶼很有用。
會俄語在后蘇聯(lián)國家很方便。
其他語言的覆蓋范圍很有限。
亞洲部分單獨列:
中亞、俄羅斯和高加索——俄羅斯語
中東-阿拉伯語,伊朗、土耳其除外,大多數(shù)海灣國家的人通常都能說不錯的英語。
南亞-英語相當普遍,因為他們曾經(jīng)是英國的殖民地。此外還有很多本地語言。
東南亞-有很多難懂的本地語言,當?shù)厝硕疾恢竿慰蜁f這些語言。英語在旅游區(qū)很普遍。在馬來西亞、菲律賓和新加坡,到處是說英語的人。
東亞-會遇到語言障礙。普通話、韓語、日語很難。
Based on my experience, English and google translate is all I needed.
根據(jù)我的經(jīng)驗,會英語、有谷歌翻譯,這就夠了。
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My brother has an interesting observation on this. You can get away with English everywhere, but you'll be paying a premium.
If you know Chinese, you can go to most places and be able to find cheaper food / services (most cities in the world have a Chinatown / Chinese stores / restaurants). Ditto w Spanish.
我兄弟對這個問題有個有趣的體會,你可以只用英語去各地旅行,但你會被宰客。
如果你會漢語,你可以去很多地方,能找到更便宜的食物和服務(wù)(世界上大多數(shù)城市都有唐人街、中國商店、餐館)。西班牙語也一樣。
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I lived in China from 2016-2018. I don’t speak Chinese but it was honestly really easy to find cheap stuff. My grocery bill was like $20 a week. You don’t need to know Chinese because the super cheap stuff is everywhere. It’s actually harder to find the expensive western places.
2016年到2018年我住在中國。我不會中文,但說實話,很容易就可以買到便宜的東西。我一個星期的雜貨費也就20美元。你不需要知道中文,因為到處都是超級便宜的東西。事實上,要找到那些昂貴的西式地方反而要難得多。
Actually not talking about when in China. But when travelling the world. For example, if you go to Southeast Asia, or Europe and use English, you'll be charged more expensive in general. But if you can speak Mandarin, you can find cheaper items if you go to Chinatown / restaurant etc
其實我說的是不在中國的時候,而是在各地旅行時。比如如果你去東南亞或歐洲,用英語,通常會被收更高的費用。但如果你會說普通話,如果你去唐人街、中餐館等,你就可以找到更便宜的東西。
Outside of China, a lot of Asia is easy to get by with English to be honest. It’s always polite to try and learn some phrases of the country you’re visiting, but it’s not worth learning an entire language just to visit one country (and each country there has its own language, so learning bahasa, for example, sn’t going to help you much outside of Indonesia).
Chinese is a useful one if you’re going to spend a long time in China. And may be impressive on your CV. But it’s also incredibly difficult to learn so may not be worth it.
I would say pick a language if you’re more interested in a specific country over other ones, or if you plan on living in that country.
When it comes to Europe, German is probably the most useful (after English).
And in South America, Spanish is your man.
Africa maybe french would be useful in some countries (like Morocco).
老實說,在中國之外,很多亞洲國家都可以用英語搞定。你去其他國家旅行時,試著學(xué)一些當?shù)氐亩陶Z可以顯得很有禮貌,但為了旅行而專門學(xué)一門完整的語言并不值得(而且每個國家都有自己的語言,你學(xué)了這個國家的一些短語,離開這個國家后就沒用了)。
如果你要在中國呆很長時間,那漢語還是很有用的語言??梢宰屇愕穆臍v顯得不凡。但要學(xué)起來非常難,所以可能也不值得。
如果你對某個國家比較感興趣,或者你打算住在這個國家,那你可以選擇學(xué)習(xí)。
說到歐洲,德語可能是最有用的(僅次于英語)。
在南美洲,西班牙語是你需要的。
在非洲,法語也許在一些國家會有用(比如摩洛哥)。
Learning German is a really unnecessary. Maybe it's useful for conversations with older generations, but most younger Germans speak English well. I can say fron personal experience that Spanish for South America is way more important.
學(xué)德語真的沒有必要。跟老一輩交談也許有用,但大多數(shù)年輕德國人英語說得很好。從我的個人經(jīng)驗來看,西班牙語在南美洲更重要。
There are really 3 large parts of the world where few people speak English and its Spanish for Latin America, French for much of Africa, and Russian for the former USSR. I'm suprised to see German mentioned so often in the thread because many Germans know enough English to get by whereas very few Russians or Khazaks, Georgians, Ukrainians do.
Also when you say German being more useful in Europe being able to communicate with the 110 mil people in European Russia, 40 mil in Ukraine, and 10 mil in Belarus is more useful than 80 mil in Germany where the average person speaks better English theres more English signage and there far more info on internet about how to do things there.
世界上有三大地區(qū)很少有人說英語,拉丁美洲說西班牙語,非洲大部分地區(qū)說法語,前蘇聯(lián)國家說俄語??吹教永镞@么多人提到德語,我很驚訝,因為很多德國人英語都說得不錯,然而沒多少俄羅斯人、哈薩克人、格魯吉亞人、烏克蘭人會英語。
當你說德語在歐洲更有用時,你可知道俄羅斯有1.1億人,烏克蘭4000萬,白俄羅斯1000萬,而德國人才8000萬,在德國,普通人的英語說得很好,有很多的英語標牌,在網(wǎng)上有很多信息告訴你怎么做事。
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I have visited every continent (including Antarctica) with only English.
If you only want enough language ability to enable your visit to places then English is enough. If you want to engage with people then English will be enough for more places than you might expect, but obviously learning the local the language will be better.
我只靠英語就游遍了各個大洲(包括南極洲)。
如果你只是想要有足夠的語言能力去一些地方旅行,那么英語就足夠了。如果你想與人交流,英語其實也足夠,但顯然,學(xué)習(xí)當?shù)卣Z言會更好。
Tha? is not very difficult and funny to learn. The tone is nice, it's like a melody when you speak.
Vietnamese is hard to learn, because of the pronounce.
Malay is little bit hard too, but it's fine.
I don't know about Chinese language I didn't visit yet China.
Most of the time everyone speaks English in Asia, don't worry about that.
泰語不是很難學(xué),而且很有趣。音調(diào)很好聽,說話的時候就像在唱歌。
越南語因為它的發(fā)音所以很難學(xué)。
馬來語也有點難,但還好。
我不會漢語,我還沒去過中國。
在亞洲,很多人都會說英語,無需擔心。
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Don’t focus on mastering any one language if your want to travel the world. My advice would be to learn the numbers and helpful phrases wherever you go. “How much for,” “where is,” “I’d like to go to,” “excuse me,” etc.
如果你想環(huán)游世界,不要把精力集中在掌握一門語言上。我的建議是,學(xué)會你要去的地方的數(shù)字和短語?!啊嗌馘X”、“…在哪里”、“我想去…”、“抱歉”等等。
Kudos to your endeavour! I've been to 35+ countries and speak 4 languages fluently. In my experience, the most useful language for travelling is learning the basic words of the local language and a smile!
The locals greatly appreciate the effort and you'll have a better experience too. Learn: hello and goodbye, please and thank you, yes and no, food and water, 1-10, toilet (very important one)!
Oh, and don't listen to the people who try to tell you that learning a specific language is hard. You just need to know a few basic words to get by.
向你的努力致敬! 我去過35個以上的國家,能流利地說4種語言。以我的經(jīng)驗,旅行最有用的語言。就是學(xué)習(xí)當?shù)卣Z言的基本詞匯,還有微笑!
當?shù)厝藭澷p你的努力,你也會有更好的體驗。學(xué)習(xí):你好、再見,請、謝謝,是、不是,食物、水,1-10,廁所(這個非常重要) !
另外,別聽那些人說學(xué)一門語言很難。你只需要知道一些基本詞匯就可以了。
Mandarin, although difficult to learn was surprisingly useful in SE Asia. On a trip through several countries, I was able to use it getting around Malaysia - one of the primary languages there, Vietnam, Taiwan, Hong Kong. Also quite a few workers from China especially in the service industries
普通話雖然很難學(xué),但在東南亞卻出人意料地有用。在一次穿越幾個國家的旅行中,我能夠用普通話在馬拉西亞都出走,它是那里的主要語言之一,還有越南、臺灣、香港。有很多來自中國的工人,特別是在服務(wù)行業(yè)。
English is basically the de facto language of global tourism. I'll second what others have said in this thread about being able to (more-or-less) get around fine nearly anywhere with English augmented with a few basic courtesy phrases (please, thanks).
One asterisk I should put on that is that you can get by with English "on the beaten path", but its utility plummets in some areas if you do more local stuff (vs. major attractions).
Literally the only place I've been out of over forty countries that had a noticeable dearth of expat/tourist-focused English signage was Xi'an in China.
英語基本上是全球旅行用語。帖子前面已經(jīng)有很多人說了,用英語和一些基本的禮貌短語(請,謝謝等)就能夠去大多數(shù)地方。
要注意的是,在大多數(shù)熱門地區(qū)你可以用英語,但在某些地區(qū)(相對于主要景點),如果你要辦一些當?shù)氐氖虑?,英語的作用就直線下降。
真的,我去過40多個國家,唯一一個明顯缺乏外國人、游客用的英語標牌的地方,是中國的西安。